<div>>I agree it wouldn't necessarily be obvious to the computer, but it's the<br>>user that matters, and I can't really see why the association wouldn't be<br>>obvious to the user.</div>
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<div>becasue being contiguous is a wek relationship and prone to error.</div>
<div>for example some AT use a heauristic to work out what it thinks a label for a control is if its not explicitly associated using the for/id or title attrbute. for a text input it looks for text to the left of the input an announces that if it finds it. Works some of the time, dosn't work other times. The AT user relies on the computer (AT) to recognize the associations, thus an explcict association as supplied by the author is usually a much more robust.</div>
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<div>= utility of aria-describedby</div>
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<div>See Ya!<br><br> </div>
<div><span class="gmail_quote">On 18/04/2008, <b class="gmail_sendername">Ian Hickson</b> <ian@hixie.ch> wrote:</span>
<blockquote style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid" class="gmail_quote">On Fri, 18 Apr 2008, Steven Faulkner wrote:<br>> ><br>> > Isn't the association already pretty obvious?<br>
><br>> To you perhaps, but unless there is an explicit association it would not<br>> be *obvious* in a programmatic sense. could be wrong though.<br><br>I agree it wouldn't necessarily be obvious to the computer, but it's the<br>
user that matters, and I can't really see why the association wouldn't be<br>obvious to the user.<br><br>--<br>Ian Hickson U+1047E )\._.,--....,'``. fL<br><a href="http://ln.hixie.ch/">http://ln.hixie.ch/</a> U+263A /, _.. \ _\ ;`._ ,.<br>
Things that are impossible just take longer. `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'<br></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>with regards<br><br>Steve Faulkner<br>Technical Director - TPG Europe<br>Director - Web Accessibility Tools Consortium<br>
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